Kinderhook plates wayne may books

President nelson grandfathers visit from the other side of the veil and family history work duration. Kinderhook plates mormonism, the mormon church, beliefs. Or perhaps youve found a wonderful bargain in an oxfam bookshop or in a library sale. From the city of byblos on the phoenician coast, about 170 miles from jerusalem, come second millennium bc syllabic inscriptions on spatula plates with inscriptions similar to. The earliest statement i am aware of claiming that the kinderhook plates were a. Do you subscribe to his magazine, ancient american. Kinderhook plates the church of jesus christ of latterday saints.

That is what those men thought when they saw the plates. Implications of eight times and seasons articles that allude to the book of mormon in conjunction with mesoamerica. Hopewell mounds in the nauvoo area may give renewed attention to the. Dean sessions latter day saint creationism the doctrine and science. Celebrate and remember the lives we have lost in kinderhook, new york. Don bradley and mark ashurstmcgee, joseph smith and the kinderhook plates, in a reason for faith. That could support the evidence for the brass plates of the book of mormon. It had been mislabeled as an original gold plate of the book of mormon. Theres no bookthemed scarf, tote bag, art print, or iphone case we wouldnt jump at or at least put on our wish list due to budget constraints. The prophecy of isaiah was also made to include references to the book of mormon witnesses and the return of the golden plates to the lord. The marriage of martins daughter in palmyra on may 8, 1828 was announced in the wayne sentinel, may.

In an article appearing in the new york herald, may 30, 1843, the author who identified himself simply as gentile indicates that the kinderhook plates were compared with the egyptian alphabet, probably referring to the document known as the grammar and aphabet sic of the egyptian language gael, compiled and written by w. Book depository books with free delivery worldwide. The kinderhook plates were a set of six small, bellshaped pieces of brass with strange engravings which were claimed to have been discovered in 1843 at an indian mound near kinderhook, illinois. Wayne may holds that michigan relics of the scotford type were. Wayne may presents the supporting evidence for the heartland model, that the book of mormon nephites and jaredites lived in north america. In 1980, permission was granted to make some very sophisticated, analytical destructive tests of the kinderhook plate. Designed to appear ancient, the plates were in fact a forgery created by three men. The kinderhook plates were a set of six small, bellshaped pieces of brass with strange. What are some of the key hard evidences that the book of. Robert wiley and others, while excavating a large mound. If youre lucky, you may have been given a special book for christmas or your birthday. Mormonisms encounter with the michigan relics byu studies. Dean sessions how practical scientific applications of the um help us learn truth. Inscribed circles with rays are prominent on the kinderhook plates, 1 which have from time to time been mistaken for the book of mormon plates.

The ces letter, a closer look brian hales examines claims posted by jeremy runnells in his letter to a ces director. Joseph smith incorrectly stated that the kinderhook plates contained a history of a descendant of ham through the loins of pharaoh, king of egypt. The fact remains that six small brass plates were unearthed from an ancient burial mound in illinois in 1843. Installments in the series run every monday and can also be found on the fairmormon youtube channel pages 43 and 44 of the ces letter contain a discussion of the kinderhook plates, which were an 1843 attempt to deceive joseph. Since bishop reel is a listener of the podcast, we discuss his perception and frustration of an increasing trend towards negativity on mormon stories. Creative gatherings and selfcare with the cheese by numbers method. Fugate, one of the 9 original kinderhook witnesses, writes an affidavit that he, robert wiley, and bridge whitton created the kinderhook plates as a hoax. The kinderhook plates, the tucson artifacts, and mormon. The kinderhook plates were an archaeological hoax perpetrated. Get cozy and expand your home library with a large online selection of books at. The plates are now back in their original category of genuine. The following will, perhaps have a tendency to convince the sceptical, that such things metal plates have been used, and that even the obnoxious book of mormon, may be true. Wilford poulson, former instructor at brigham young university, discovered a single kinderhook plate in the chicago historical society museum. Even before the book of mormon was published, mormonism was linked to.

One thought that keeps popping up is how his main point is that critics of the bom have to jump. This went beyond plagiarism to the actual spinning of preexisting scripture to support the divinity of josephs mission and the church he established. Watch as wayne may presents many of the ancient american artifacts found in north america and see how they line up with the nephite, lamanite and jaredite. In his history of the church, 1 joseph smith discusses six brass plates covered with ancient characters and a skeleton which must have stood nine feet high found by nine locals as they explored the area around kinderhook, illinois. From the city of byblos on the phoenician coast, about 170 miles from jerusalem, come second millennium bc syllabic inscriptions on spatula plates with inscriptions similar to kinderhook. The official john wayne family cookbook the lakeside. In a letter written from that city, dated 2 may 1843, charlotte haven said that when joshua moore showed them to joseph, the latter said that the figures or writing on them was similar to that in which the book of mormon was written, and if mr. During the early 19th century when joseph smith was working his magic, we hadnt yet translated any egyptian hieroglyphics. Commentary on the book of mormon, a work promoted in the churchs desert book store included. The kinderhook plates may have originated in the old worldbrought here through intercontinental travel, or were manufactured here sometime after the colonists arrived. According to wilbur fugate in 1879, the plates were carefully forged by himself and two other.

It is a haven in a stressfilled world and staffed by the nicest people. The kinderhook plates were a set of six small, bellshaped pieces of. Wayne may distorts facts about hill cumorah by dahlem. Mormonisms encounter with the michigan relics book of mormon. John wayne cast iron official cookbook by media lab books. I have translated a portion of them, and find they contain the history of the person with whom they were found. A branch has been recently organized at lyons, wayne county, new york. Boyd tuttle out of darkness into light a decade of discovery in book of mormon research. Articles alphabetical book of mormon archaeological forum. By 1912, however, at least two items of evidence had come to light indicating that the kinderhook plates were not authentic.

In 1843 six brass plates bell shaped were found in a dugup mound in kinderhook, illinois witnessed by nine individuals. Deseret book and byu religious studies center, 2016, 93115 mark alan wright, joseph smith and native american artifacts, in approaching antiquity. Robert wiley and others, while excavating a large mound are displayed. Browse the most recent kinderhook, new york obituaries and condolences. The details of the kinderhook plates story are interesting and puzzling. I insert facsimiles of the six brass plates found near kinderhook, in pike county, illinois, on april 23, by mr. The voree and kinderhook plates are small and crude and were obviously made of easily available materials. See attached character chart, courtesy wayne mayglade burgon. The john wayne cast iron official cookbook is jampacked with recipes that take advantage. The fact that the kinderhook plates, an admitted hoax, was defended by many important members of the church for over one hundred years has created a major discrepancy in the chronological history of the church.

Articles by author book of mormon archaeological forum. We also discuss the future direction of mormon stories, and bishop reel offers his advice for members in doubt. His last book of mormon conference presentation was regarding the kinderhook plates, the olmecs, and the suggestion that the jaredites were black. The kinderhook plates were six brass, bellshaped plates covered with engravings that were shown the prophet joseph smith in april, 1843 while he was living in nauvoo, illinois. The inscription upon them is key to unlocking a lost chapter of history. Book of mormon evidence in american archaeology wayne may. Pending thorough linguistic analysis and translation, we may yet unravel the message and the mystery of the plates of kinderhook. The book of mormon plates, on the other hand, are a different story entirely. The kinderhook plates are a very important part of lds church history. You may leave out the book of mormon and the book of doctrine and. Brian stubbs lehite language evidence in native american languages.

According to latter day saint belief, the book of mormon was originally. The results were printed in the official church publication, the. But, on the other hand, we have the fact before us. According to the account, wiley and others, found a skeleton about six feet from the surface of the earth. After disproving the kinderhook plates and the book of abraham translation, should we trust joseph smith when he claims to have translated the book of mormon. Cast iron cooking is as american as john wayne and a good cast iron skillet is one of your most versatile kitchen tools, perfect for making meals in the kitchen, on the grill, or over an open fire.

Because he was known for having translated the book of mormon from gold plates, and the book of abraham from ancient papyri, some locals decided to test him by forging these plates and tricking him into translating them. United states, polygamy is not protected by first amendment. The kinderhook plates were a set of six small, bellshaped pieces of brass with strange engravings which were claimed to have been discovered in 1843 in an indian mound near kinderhook, illinois, us. Perhaps joseph or others may have noted some superficial similarity between the characters on the fake kinderhook plates and those they had seen on the plates of gold or on egyptian papyri. The official john wayne family cookbook presents recipes that are sure to appeal to the whole family. The kinderhook platesfirst issue of the nauvoo neighbornew mission. Reconstructions of them based on witness descriptions prove extremely difficult. A sympathetic letter also dated may 7, 1843, published in the new york herald. What do the kinderhook plates reveal about joseph smiths. The story of mormonisms encounter with the michigan relics contains a model of investigative research as well as a cautionary tale. According to wilbur fugate in 1879, the plates were carefully forged by himself and two other men from kinderhook, named, bridge whitten and robert wiley, who were testing the validity of the claims made by joseph smith, founder of the latter day saint movement, at that time headquartered in nauvoo, ill. Fooling the prophet with the kinderhook plates mormonism. Joseph smith failed this test when he translated a portion of the kinderhook plates, which were proven by science in 1980 to be fake. History museum mislabeled as an original gold plate of the book of.

They found a skeleton about six feet from the surface of the earth, which must have stood nine feet high. Paste one of these classic bookplates into your treasured book, to tell everyone it is yours. Book of mormon evidence streaming faithfully exploring. How do we explain early comments about the kinderhook plates. This position has provided a source of controversy for the church ever since. Browse bookplates on sale, by desired features, or by customer ratings. On pages 3746 of the documentary history of the church, vol. Book of mormon conference wayne may in independence earth mounds. Wayne sentinel, palmyra, new york, february 16, 1825. The kinderhook plates were a set of 6 small, bell shaped pieces of brass with strange engravings discovered in 1843 in an indian mound near kinderhook, illinois. Artifacts from wayne mays collection ancient lost treasures. As fervent booklovers, were also fervent lovers of literary paraphernalia. In 1843, joseph smith was presented with a set of brass plates pulled from an indian burial mound, and determined that they were a record of a.